From aedff1a90597b65c7f9d2daceaa468cba5b3d4d1 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: darjutak <31061184+darjutak@users.noreply.github.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2018 13:47:59 +0200 Subject: [PATCH 01/12] May 2018 SIP Meeting Berlin --- _sips/minutes/2018-5-18 | 80 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 1 file changed, 80 insertions(+) create mode 100644 _sips/minutes/2018-5-18 diff --git a/_sips/minutes/2018-5-18 b/_sips/minutes/2018-5-18 new file mode 100644 index 0000000000..45f3a9b9d2 --- /dev/null +++ b/_sips/minutes/2018-5-18 @@ -0,0 +1,80 @@ +--- +layout: sips +title: SIP Meeting Minutes - 18th May 2018 + +partof: minutes +--- + +# Minutes + +Open discusion about SIP role and transition with given evolution of Scala language, from Scala 2 to Scala 3. + +Jorge Vicente Cantero was the Process Lead and Darja Jovanovic was the secretary. + + +## Date and Location +The meeting took place on 18th May 2018 in Zalando offices in Berlin, Germany day after ScalaDays 2018 finished. + +Minutes were taken by Darja Jovanovic. + +## Attendees + +* Martin Odersky ([@odersky](https://github.com/odersky)), EPFL +* Jorge Vicente Cantero ([@jvican](https://github.com/jvican)), Process Lead +* Seth Tisue ([@SethTisue](https://github.com/SethTisue)), Lightbend +* Heather Miller ([@heathermiller](https://github.com/heathermiller)), Scala Center +* Sébastien Doeraene ([@sjrd](https://github.com/sjrd)), EPFL +* Adriaan Moors ([@adriaanm](https://github.com/adriaanm)), Lightbend +* Miles Sabin ([@milessabin](https://github.com/milessabin)) + + +## Not present + + + +## Proceedings +### Opening Remarks + +Quorum was not met, but the meeting still took place in a form of an open discussion. + +The meeting was devoted to discussing how we would handle the approval of Scala 3 changes into the specification and how we would organize during the next year, given that Scala 3 will be feature freeze by then. + +Topics discussed: + +1. SIP Committee role in the upcoming Scala 3 release. + +All present agreed that SIP Committee should continue its mandate in approving the Scala 3 changes. + +2. SIP Committee role in Scala 2 + +SIP Committee will focus on Scala 3 changes and creating the spec, **Martin** [YouTube time: 6'54''](https://youtu.be/q2LVmTe9qmU?t=414), Scala 2 SIP proposals will continue as before, but in a slower paste. + +3. How to structure and organise the workflow + +Given the short time and amount of decisions that need to be made, the Committee proposed and agreed about the following + +*Structure* +a) Have a **list of changes**, separated in batches that would be decided within the next year, meeting once a month +b) **Plan** should be consolidated between the Committee members through a Google doc +c) **Public comments** - each batch should be published for a month before discussing on the Contributors thread in order to have community involved, share their opinion and contribute in the proposed changes. The discussions should be in a month time frame, and clearly stated at the beginning of the thread + +*Organisation* +**Jorge** will be in charge of posting the monthly batches on contributors thread and, depending on the subject, one of the Committee Members or a contributor will follow the conversations, answer questions and finally summarize the discussion to be submitted to the Committee in order to make inclusive decisions. +The first batch should be the removals as per list already prepared for 2.14 release. + +The above mentioned structure and organisation was gathered throughout the meeting, here are the snippets: + +- **Adriaan** suggests the batches, to be able to move faster [YouTube time: 5'51''](https://youtu.be/q2LVmTe9qmU?t=351) and gives a reason why [YouTube time: 8'25''](https://youtu.be/q2LVmTe9qmU?t=505). +- **Seth** suggests to put the changes up for public comment [YouTube time: 7.12](https://youtu.be/q2LVmTe9qmU?t=432) +- At [YouTube time: 24'04''](https://youtu.be/q2LVmTe9qmU?t=1444) **Martin** suggests a list of changes that needs to be considered +- **Heather** lays down the structure/organisation idea [YouTube time: 13'51''](https://youtu.be/q2LVmTe9qmU?t=824) +- Between [YouTube time: 19'38'' and 24'](https://youtu.be/q2LVmTe9qmU?t=1178) the Committee discusses and agrees on the next steps: 1. Batches; 2. Plan; 3. Public comments on Contributors + +Other: spec, quorum +**Heather** bings up a question about Scala spec [YouTube time: 4'49''](https://youtu.be/q2LVmTe9qmU?t=289) to which **Martin** responds within the next year we should know which features are included as a first priority but that spec should not be left for the last minute. + +**Miles** [YouTube time: 8'45](https://youtu.be/q2LVmTe9qmU?t=525) asks PLEASE ADD + +**Martin** [YouTube time: 37'59''](https://youtu.be/q2LVmTe9qmU?t=2279 ) also raised a question about the decision making process, asking if it would be better to change to simple majority when it comes to voting. This was rejected by most of the Members and agreed it should be discussed in a different meeting or time. + +**Conclusion** The first batch should be agreed upon, posted on the Contributors thread for public comments. Such discussion should be summaraized and included in the next meeting (22nd June 2018, after ScalaDays NewYork). From ce89a14ee4b59feedd9a331d6e4daca70855aba7 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: darjutak <31061184+darjutak@users.noreply.github.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2018 13:51:45 +0200 Subject: [PATCH 02/12] Update 2018-5-18 --- _sips/minutes/2018-5-18 | 2 +- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/_sips/minutes/2018-5-18 b/_sips/minutes/2018-5-18 index 45f3a9b9d2..3da66ed325 100644 --- a/_sips/minutes/2018-5-18 +++ b/_sips/minutes/2018-5-18 @@ -26,7 +26,7 @@ Minutes were taken by Darja Jovanovic. * Sébastien Doeraene ([@sjrd](https://github.com/sjrd)), EPFL * Adriaan Moors ([@adriaanm](https://github.com/adriaanm)), Lightbend * Miles Sabin ([@milessabin](https://github.com/milessabin)) - +* Darja Jovanovic ([@darjutak](https://github.com/darjutak) ## Not present From 495128a7b069d70a0b7cafc8100f2c87cfbd2dd5 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: darjutak <31061184+darjutak@users.noreply.github.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2018 13:53:34 +0200 Subject: [PATCH 03/12] Rename 2018-5-18 to 2018-5-18.md --- _sips/minutes/{2018-5-18 => 2018-5-18.md} | 0 1 file changed, 0 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) rename _sips/minutes/{2018-5-18 => 2018-5-18.md} (100%) diff --git a/_sips/minutes/2018-5-18 b/_sips/minutes/2018-5-18.md similarity index 100% rename from _sips/minutes/2018-5-18 rename to _sips/minutes/2018-5-18.md From 85f52cb474739e0fb3a203090cb14204364ce2d6 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: darjutak <31061184+darjutak@users.noreply.github.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2018 14:01:16 +0200 Subject: [PATCH 04/12] Update 2018-5-18.md --- _sips/minutes/2018-5-18.md | 13 +++++++++---- 1 file changed, 9 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-) diff --git a/_sips/minutes/2018-5-18.md b/_sips/minutes/2018-5-18.md index 3da66ed325..66fea570e6 100644 --- a/_sips/minutes/2018-5-18.md +++ b/_sips/minutes/2018-5-18.md @@ -25,11 +25,14 @@ Minutes were taken by Darja Jovanovic. * Heather Miller ([@heathermiller](https://github.com/heathermiller)), Scala Center * Sébastien Doeraene ([@sjrd](https://github.com/sjrd)), EPFL * Adriaan Moors ([@adriaanm](https://github.com/adriaanm)), Lightbend -* Miles Sabin ([@milessabin](https://github.com/milessabin)) -* Darja Jovanovic ([@darjutak](https://github.com/darjutak) +* Miles Sabin ([@milessabin](https://github.com/milessabin)), Independent +* Darja Jovanovic ([@darjutak](https://github.com/darjutak)), Scala Center ## Not present +* Iulian Dragos ([@dragos](https://github.com/dragos)), Triplequote +* Eugene Burmako ([@xeno-by](https://github.com/xeno-by)), Twitter +* Josh Suereth ([@jsuereth](https://github.com/jsuereth)), Independent ## Proceedings @@ -47,18 +50,20 @@ All present agreed that SIP Committee should continue its mandate in approving t 2. SIP Committee role in Scala 2 -SIP Committee will focus on Scala 3 changes and creating the spec, **Martin** [YouTube time: 6'54''](https://youtu.be/q2LVmTe9qmU?t=414), Scala 2 SIP proposals will continue as before, but in a slower paste. +SIP Committee will focus on Scala 3 changes and creating the spec, **Martin** [YouTube time: 6'54''](https://youtu.be/q2LVmTe9qmU?t=414), Scala 2 SIP proposals will continue as before, but at a slower pace. 3. How to structure and organise the workflow Given the short time and amount of decisions that need to be made, the Committee proposed and agreed about the following *Structure* + a) Have a **list of changes**, separated in batches that would be decided within the next year, meeting once a month -b) **Plan** should be consolidated between the Committee members through a Google doc +b) **Plan** should be consolidated between the Committee members using a shared a Google doc c) **Public comments** - each batch should be published for a month before discussing on the Contributors thread in order to have community involved, share their opinion and contribute in the proposed changes. The discussions should be in a month time frame, and clearly stated at the beginning of the thread *Organisation* + **Jorge** will be in charge of posting the monthly batches on contributors thread and, depending on the subject, one of the Committee Members or a contributor will follow the conversations, answer questions and finally summarize the discussion to be submitted to the Committee in order to make inclusive decisions. The first batch should be the removals as per list already prepared for 2.14 release. From 4c3869ed074c51b3635cb4a896dd93aa726c22b7 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: darjutak <31061184+darjutak@users.noreply.github.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2018 14:02:02 +0200 Subject: [PATCH 05/12] Rename 2018-5-18.md to 2018-06-18-sup-minutes.md --- _sips/minutes/{2018-5-18.md => 2018-06-18-sup-minutes.md} | 0 1 file changed, 0 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) rename _sips/minutes/{2018-5-18.md => 2018-06-18-sup-minutes.md} (100%) diff --git a/_sips/minutes/2018-5-18.md b/_sips/minutes/2018-06-18-sup-minutes.md similarity index 100% rename from _sips/minutes/2018-5-18.md rename to _sips/minutes/2018-06-18-sup-minutes.md From 915b1f4174d41ffa0c754c4ab16038aa2d827e82 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: darjutak <31061184+darjutak@users.noreply.github.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2018 14:03:25 +0200 Subject: [PATCH 06/12] Update 2018-06-18-sup-minutes.md --- _sips/minutes/2018-06-18-sup-minutes.md | 3 ++- 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/_sips/minutes/2018-06-18-sup-minutes.md b/_sips/minutes/2018-06-18-sup-minutes.md index 66fea570e6..b34be7273e 100644 --- a/_sips/minutes/2018-06-18-sup-minutes.md +++ b/_sips/minutes/2018-06-18-sup-minutes.md @@ -75,7 +75,8 @@ The above mentioned structure and organisation was gathered throughout the meeti - **Heather** lays down the structure/organisation idea [YouTube time: 13'51''](https://youtu.be/q2LVmTe9qmU?t=824) - Between [YouTube time: 19'38'' and 24'](https://youtu.be/q2LVmTe9qmU?t=1178) the Committee discusses and agrees on the next steps: 1. Batches; 2. Plan; 3. Public comments on Contributors -Other: spec, quorum +4. Other: spec, quorum + **Heather** bings up a question about Scala spec [YouTube time: 4'49''](https://youtu.be/q2LVmTe9qmU?t=289) to which **Martin** responds within the next year we should know which features are included as a first priority but that spec should not be left for the last minute. **Miles** [YouTube time: 8'45](https://youtu.be/q2LVmTe9qmU?t=525) asks PLEASE ADD From f7213dfafd3fad11b2e29e11639b650a7f800acb Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: darjutak <31061184+darjutak@users.noreply.github.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2018 14:07:25 +0200 Subject: [PATCH 07/12] Update 2018-06-18-sup-minutes.md --- _sips/minutes/2018-06-18-sup-minutes.md | 5 ++++- 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/_sips/minutes/2018-06-18-sup-minutes.md b/_sips/minutes/2018-06-18-sup-minutes.md index b34be7273e..25f9b6e93b 100644 --- a/_sips/minutes/2018-06-18-sup-minutes.md +++ b/_sips/minutes/2018-06-18-sup-minutes.md @@ -13,7 +13,10 @@ Jorge Vicente Cantero was the Process Lead and Darja Jovanovic was the secretary ## Date and Location -The meeting took place on 18th May 2018 in Zalando offices in Berlin, Germany day after ScalaDays 2018 finished. +The meeting took place on 18th May 2018 in Zalando offices in Berlin at 5 PM CET, Germany day after ScalaDays 2018 finished. +All the attendees were in the same room and it was broadcasted via Google HangOuts. + +[Watch on Scala Center YouTube channel](https://youtu.be/q2LVmTe9qmU?t=3) Minutes were taken by Darja Jovanovic. From 72528edbbfc009591896863c234be3accbc7b408 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: darjutak <31061184+darjutak@users.noreply.github.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2018 14:09:34 +0200 Subject: [PATCH 08/12] Update 2018-06-18-sup-minutes.md --- _sips/minutes/2018-06-18-sup-minutes.md | 16 ++++++++-------- 1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-) diff --git a/_sips/minutes/2018-06-18-sup-minutes.md b/_sips/minutes/2018-06-18-sup-minutes.md index 25f9b6e93b..48aaba4e70 100644 --- a/_sips/minutes/2018-06-18-sup-minutes.md +++ b/_sips/minutes/2018-06-18-sup-minutes.md @@ -53,7 +53,7 @@ All present agreed that SIP Committee should continue its mandate in approving t 2. SIP Committee role in Scala 2 -SIP Committee will focus on Scala 3 changes and creating the spec, **Martin** [YouTube time: 6'54''](https://youtu.be/q2LVmTe9qmU?t=414), Scala 2 SIP proposals will continue as before, but at a slower pace. +SIP Committee will focus on Scala 3 changes and creating the spec, **Martin** ([YouTube time: 6'54''](https://youtu.be/q2LVmTe9qmU?t=414)), Scala 2 SIP proposals will continue as before, but at a slower pace. 3. How to structure and organise the workflow @@ -72,18 +72,18 @@ The first batch should be the removals as per list already prepared for 2.14 rel The above mentioned structure and organisation was gathered throughout the meeting, here are the snippets: -- **Adriaan** suggests the batches, to be able to move faster [YouTube time: 5'51''](https://youtu.be/q2LVmTe9qmU?t=351) and gives a reason why [YouTube time: 8'25''](https://youtu.be/q2LVmTe9qmU?t=505). -- **Seth** suggests to put the changes up for public comment [YouTube time: 7.12](https://youtu.be/q2LVmTe9qmU?t=432) -- At [YouTube time: 24'04''](https://youtu.be/q2LVmTe9qmU?t=1444) **Martin** suggests a list of changes that needs to be considered -- **Heather** lays down the structure/organisation idea [YouTube time: 13'51''](https://youtu.be/q2LVmTe9qmU?t=824) +- **Adriaan** suggests the batches, to be able to move faster ([YouTube time: 5'51''](https://youtu.be/q2LVmTe9qmU?t=351)) and gives a reason why ([YouTube time: 8'25''](https://youtu.be/q2LVmTe9qmU?t=505)). +- **Seth** suggests to put the changes up for public comment ([YouTube time: 7.12](https://youtu.be/q2LVmTe9qmU?t=432)) +- At ([YouTube time: 24'04''](https://youtu.be/q2LVmTe9qmU?t=1444)) **Martin** suggests a list of changes that needs to be considered +- **Heather** lays down the structure/organisation idea ([YouTube time: 13'51''](https://youtu.be/q2LVmTe9qmU?t=824)) - Between [YouTube time: 19'38'' and 24'](https://youtu.be/q2LVmTe9qmU?t=1178) the Committee discusses and agrees on the next steps: 1. Batches; 2. Plan; 3. Public comments on Contributors 4. Other: spec, quorum -**Heather** bings up a question about Scala spec [YouTube time: 4'49''](https://youtu.be/q2LVmTe9qmU?t=289) to which **Martin** responds within the next year we should know which features are included as a first priority but that spec should not be left for the last minute. +**Heather** bings up a question about Scala spec ([YouTube time: 4'49''](https://youtu.be/q2LVmTe9qmU?t=289)) to which **Martin** responds within the next year we should know which features are included as a first priority but that spec should not be left for the last minute. -**Miles** [YouTube time: 8'45](https://youtu.be/q2LVmTe9qmU?t=525) asks PLEASE ADD +**Miles** ([YouTube time: 8'45](https://youtu.be/q2LVmTe9qmU?t=525)) asks PLEASE ADD -**Martin** [YouTube time: 37'59''](https://youtu.be/q2LVmTe9qmU?t=2279 ) also raised a question about the decision making process, asking if it would be better to change to simple majority when it comes to voting. This was rejected by most of the Members and agreed it should be discussed in a different meeting or time. +**Martin** ([YouTube time: 37'59''](https://youtu.be/q2LVmTe9qmU?t=2279)) also raised a question about the decision making process, asking if it would be better to change to simple majority when it comes to voting. This was rejected by most of the Members and agreed it should be discussed in a different meeting or time. **Conclusion** The first batch should be agreed upon, posted on the Contributors thread for public comments. Such discussion should be summaraized and included in the next meeting (22nd June 2018, after ScalaDays NewYork). From 7cccddc971411414e10c8ad8adb2d62b99dc9170 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: darjutak <31061184+darjutak@users.noreply.github.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2018 14:14:07 +0200 Subject: [PATCH 09/12] Rename 2018-06-18-sup-minutes.md to 2018-06-18-sip-minutes.md --- .../{2018-06-18-sup-minutes.md => 2018-06-18-sip-minutes.md} | 0 1 file changed, 0 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) rename _sips/minutes/{2018-06-18-sup-minutes.md => 2018-06-18-sip-minutes.md} (100%) diff --git a/_sips/minutes/2018-06-18-sup-minutes.md b/_sips/minutes/2018-06-18-sip-minutes.md similarity index 100% rename from _sips/minutes/2018-06-18-sup-minutes.md rename to _sips/minutes/2018-06-18-sip-minutes.md From 4b8ee463a3bebf9b2759266c16c4d322e7aec18a Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: darjutak <31061184+darjutak@users.noreply.github.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2018 14:26:20 +0200 Subject: [PATCH 10/12] Update 2018-06-18-sip-minutes.md --- _sips/minutes/2018-06-18-sip-minutes.md | 2 +- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/_sips/minutes/2018-06-18-sip-minutes.md b/_sips/minutes/2018-06-18-sip-minutes.md index 48aaba4e70..93ef43dbff 100644 --- a/_sips/minutes/2018-06-18-sip-minutes.md +++ b/_sips/minutes/2018-06-18-sip-minutes.md @@ -7,7 +7,7 @@ partof: minutes # Minutes -Open discusion about SIP role and transition with given evolution of Scala language, from Scala 2 to Scala 3. +Open discusion about SIP role and transition with given evolution of Scala language, from Scala 2 to Scala 3. The conversation was prompted due to the wake of Martin Odersky's keynote at Scala Days, Berlin 2018 introducing the future of Scala - Scala 3 (link to the key note will be added once published by the organisers). Jorge Vicente Cantero was the Process Lead and Darja Jovanovic was the secretary. From 1e88d537216f923711e63c9fb2979baeade52587 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: darjutak <31061184+darjutak@users.noreply.github.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 17:06:09 +0200 Subject: [PATCH 11/12] Update 2018-06-18-sip-minutes.md --- _sips/minutes/2018-06-18-sip-minutes.md | 14 +++++++------- 1 file changed, 7 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-) diff --git a/_sips/minutes/2018-06-18-sip-minutes.md b/_sips/minutes/2018-06-18-sip-minutes.md index 93ef43dbff..d8f69eb48d 100644 --- a/_sips/minutes/2018-06-18-sip-minutes.md +++ b/_sips/minutes/2018-06-18-sip-minutes.md @@ -43,7 +43,7 @@ Minutes were taken by Darja Jovanovic. Quorum was not met, but the meeting still took place in a form of an open discussion. -The meeting was devoted to discussing how we would handle the approval of Scala 3 changes into the specification and how we would organize during the next year, given that Scala 3 will be feature freeze by then. +The meeting was devoted to discussing how SIP Committee should handle the approval of Scala 3 changes into the specification and how it would organize during the next year, given that Scala 3 will be feature freeze by then. Topics discussed: @@ -61,13 +61,13 @@ Given the short time and amount of decisions that need to be made, the Committee *Structure* -a) Have a **list of changes**, separated in batches that would be decided within the next year, meeting once a month -b) **Plan** should be consolidated between the Committee members using a shared a Google doc -c) **Public comments** - each batch should be published for a month before discussing on the Contributors thread in order to have community involved, share their opinion and contribute in the proposed changes. The discussions should be in a month time frame, and clearly stated at the beginning of the thread +a) Have a **list of changes**, grouped in batches that would be decided within the next year, meeting once a month +b) **Plan** - full and strucutured list of changes that need to be implemented consolidated between the Committee members using a shared a Google doc +c) **Public comments** - each batch should be published on the Contributors thread, for a month at a time in order to have community involved, share their opinion and contribute. Advise was proposed - each thread should clearly point out start and end date of collecting the comments/suggestions. *Organisation* -**Jorge** will be in charge of posting the monthly batches on contributors thread and, depending on the subject, one of the Committee Members or a contributor will follow the conversations, answer questions and finally summarize the discussion to be submitted to the Committee in order to make inclusive decisions. +**Jorge** will be in charge of posting the monthly batches on contributors thread. One of the Committee Members (SIP reviewer) or SIP author will be assigned/volunteer to follow the conversations, answer questions and finally summarize the discussion to be submitted to the Committee in order to make inclusive decision. The first batch should be the removals as per list already prepared for 2.14 release. The above mentioned structure and organisation was gathered throughout the meeting, here are the snippets: @@ -80,9 +80,9 @@ The above mentioned structure and organisation was gathered throughout the meeti 4. Other: spec, quorum -**Heather** bings up a question about Scala spec ([YouTube time: 4'49''](https://youtu.be/q2LVmTe9qmU?t=289)) to which **Martin** responds within the next year we should know which features are included as a first priority but that spec should not be left for the last minute. +**Heather** bings up an important question "What about Scala spec" ([YouTube time: 4'49''](https://youtu.be/q2LVmTe9qmU?t=289)) to which **Martin** responds within the next year we should know which features are included as a first priority but that spec should not be left for the last minute. -**Miles** ([YouTube time: 8'45](https://youtu.be/q2LVmTe9qmU?t=525)) asks PLEASE ADD +**Miles** ([YouTube time: 8'45](https://youtu.be/q2LVmTe9qmU?t=525)) states that SIP proposals should be directly linked to specification changes which will save a lot of time and effort. **Martin** ([YouTube time: 37'59''](https://youtu.be/q2LVmTe9qmU?t=2279)) also raised a question about the decision making process, asking if it would be better to change to simple majority when it comes to voting. This was rejected by most of the Members and agreed it should be discussed in a different meeting or time. From a7fbbaab613498fdaa8c07fb2656966a4fc66dfb Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: darjutak <31061184+darjutak@users.noreply.github.com> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 10:41:03 +0200 Subject: [PATCH 12/12] Update 2018-06-18-sip-minutes.md --- _sips/minutes/2018-06-18-sip-minutes.md | 4 ++-- 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) diff --git a/_sips/minutes/2018-06-18-sip-minutes.md b/_sips/minutes/2018-06-18-sip-minutes.md index d8f69eb48d..3f4c390f78 100644 --- a/_sips/minutes/2018-06-18-sip-minutes.md +++ b/_sips/minutes/2018-06-18-sip-minutes.md @@ -7,7 +7,7 @@ partof: minutes # Minutes -Open discusion about SIP role and transition with given evolution of Scala language, from Scala 2 to Scala 3. The conversation was prompted due to the wake of Martin Odersky's keynote at Scala Days, Berlin 2018 introducing the future of Scala - Scala 3 (link to the key note will be added once published by the organisers). +Open discussion about SIP role and transition with given evolution of Scala language, from Scala 2 to Scala 3. The conversation was prompted due to the wake of Martin Odersky's keynote at Scala Days, Berlin 2018 introducing the future of Scala - Scala 3 (link to the key note will be added once published by the organisers). Jorge Vicente Cantero was the Process Lead and Darja Jovanovic was the secretary. @@ -82,7 +82,7 @@ The above mentioned structure and organisation was gathered throughout the meeti **Heather** bings up an important question "What about Scala spec" ([YouTube time: 4'49''](https://youtu.be/q2LVmTe9qmU?t=289)) to which **Martin** responds within the next year we should know which features are included as a first priority but that spec should not be left for the last minute. -**Miles** ([YouTube time: 8'45](https://youtu.be/q2LVmTe9qmU?t=525)) states that SIP proposals should be directly linked to specification changes which will save a lot of time and effort. +**Miles** ([YouTube time: 8'45](https://youtu.be/q2LVmTe9qmU?t=525))suggested that SIP proposals should include draft specification changes to save time and effort pulling the eventual spec update together. **Martin** ([YouTube time: 37'59''](https://youtu.be/q2LVmTe9qmU?t=2279)) also raised a question about the decision making process, asking if it would be better to change to simple majority when it comes to voting. This was rejected by most of the Members and agreed it should be discussed in a different meeting or time.