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## Proceedings
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### Opening Remarks
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Jorge opens the meeting, explains SIP dynamics:
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**Jorge** opens the meeting, explains SIP dynamics:
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Selected batches (proposals for language change in Scala 3) are published on Contributors
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Community has 1 month deadline to discuss the proposals
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Committee summarises the comments and discusses during the meeting
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Decision / voting / postponing the discussion
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(more in May minutes: https://docs.scala-lang.org/sips/minutes/2018-05-18-sip-minutes.html)
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**Miles Sabin**[YouTube time: 2’15’’ - 11’22’’ ](https://youtu.be/gnlL4PlstFY?t=136) summarised discussion on Contributors thread [“Proposal to remove auto application from the language”](https://contributors.scala-lang.org/t/proposal-to-remove-auto-application-from-the-language/2145)
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Focuses on the Contributors discussion rather than on the proposal itself
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Underlines a lack of motivation in the light of a separate issue from [Dotty: Weak eta-expansion](https://github.com/lampepfl/dotty/issues/2570)
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Concludes that this proposal should be aligned with eta-extension issue
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[More in May 2018 minutes](https://docs.scala-lang.org/sips/minutes/2018-05-18-sip-minutes.html)]
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### Summaries of discussions of the First Scala 3 batch
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###[“Proposal to remove auto application from the language”](https://contributors.scala-lang.org/t/proposal-to-remove-auto-application-from-the-language/2145)
**Miles Sabin** summarised discussion on Contributors thread.
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- Focuses on the Contributors discussion rather than on the proposal itself
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- Underlines a lack of motivation in the light of a separate issue from [Dotty: Weak eta-expansion](https://github.com/lampepfl/dotty/issues/2570)
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- Concludes that this proposal should be aligned with eta-extension issue
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Summary:
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+ Interaction with nullary constructors. Currently `class Foo` is interpreted as
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`class Foo()`. Mutatis mutandis for case class `apply` methods.
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**Martin**[Youtube time: 11.37](https://youtu.be/gnlL4PlstFY?t=688) addressing a comment + compatibility
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Than new collections use cases as a shaper to this proposal. Agrees with Miles about ?
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**Martin** ([Youtube time: 11.37](https://youtu.be/gnlL4PlstFY?t=688)) mentiones that this proposal also came about due to New collection usecases that surfaced in recent work - showing that without a strict rule there is a high amount of "un-disciplined" use of (). But he agrees with Miles about merging the two proposals together.
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**Conclusion****Jorge** takes the task to merge the proposals and extend the motivation.
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**Conclusion**https://youtu.be/gnlL4PlstFY?t=764 Jorge will merge something and write a motivation, reusing something Martin showed him + compatibility with Scala 2
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**Sébastien**[YouTube time” 14’53’ - 40’10’’](https://youtu.be/gnlL4PlstFY?t=891) summarised discussion on Contributors thread [“Proposal to remove XML literals from the language”](https://contributors.scala-lang.org/t/proposal-to-remove-xml-literals-from-the-language/2146)
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**Sébastien**[YouTube time” 14’53’ - 40’10’’](https://youtu.be/gnlL4PlstFY?t=891) summarised discussion on Contributors thread [“Proposal to remove XML literals from the language”](https://contributors.scala-lang.org/t/proposal-to-remove-xml-literals-from-the-language/2146)
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Summary:
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In favor of the removal
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Significant language specification weight, as well as compiler implementation. The whole XML spec must be embedded in Scala!
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